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I've transplanted tomatoes into the bigger pot. I am keeping the plants in the green house. My growing ritual is somewhat unusual, but I am determined to give it a try. When transplanted I cut the main stem and plant them 25cm deep.

After 10 days, i noticed some whitish-yellow spots on the leaves. See images below. I am wondering, what is this? I haven't found exact match of such leaves on google, but it look similar to oedema or leaf mold. Do you know what is wrong with my tomatoes? Besides this spots, the plant looks great and has lots of new growings.

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Here are some more images: https://i.sstatic.net/9sSM5.jpg

UPDATE after a week: The plant is doing just fine. Very few of the spots turned into holes, the others remain the same size and shape.

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  • infonet-biovision.org/res/res/files/767.600x500.jpeg Did I send this picture already? I'll send again in case. The leaf on the right side of the cycle is where your leaves and eggs are now. The cycle continues clock wise from 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock etc.
    – stormy
    Commented Apr 19, 2017 at 3:15

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It does look like edema to me, due to the bumps on the undersides of the leaves. However, spider mites could be accompanying the edema. Also, alternaria, anthracnose or similar fungi might lead to similar yellow spots on foliage.

To help prevent edema symptoms, you can try the following:

  • Add some ventilation. A very small fan or vents to allow outdoor air to come in should help. A big fan may cause your soil and plants to dry out quickly (especially if it's warm; that's kind of how food dehydrators work—fans and heat).
  • If the room is warm and humid, making it cooler and dry should help (although warmth and humidity can be good for plants).
  • Don't crowd your plants. Crowded plants are more susceptible to edema.
  • Don't get the leaves wet. I've had a plant that seemed edema-free; then, I got the leaves wet, looked away for some minutes, and when I looked back it had really, really bad edema all of the sudden. Water seems to be able to be a trigger.
  • Don't stress about it too much. If it's just edema, you probably shouldn't throw plants away or anything like that. I did that with a tomato once when I didn't know what was wrong with it. It had edema much worse than your plants, but it would have been fine. I thought it might be a contagious disease or something. It's possible a fungal pathogen is involved, but I wouldn't worry about it overly. You can learn from the experience. I would work more on prevention for next time, improving conditions for now and such—rather than striving for all-out perfection right now (although it is possible the pathogen might cause issues later if/when conditions become favorable for it outdoors, if it's still dormant on your plant—which is possible, but you can always pull it up, or something, if that happens to a problematic degree).

I'm guessing you just barely put the plants in your greenhouse. If so, the problem will likely go away soon (on new growth). If not so, I wonder if there's a lack of ventilation in your greenhouse, or if it's too hot at night (if it's warm, humid and dark without air movement at night that might increase the likelihood of fungal pathogens). My greenhouse is unheated (so it's much cooler at night); same for outdoor humidity domes. I'm not sure if that's why I've only had plants with edema issues indoors, but it's worth a try, perhaps (as long as you don't damage your plants; some people think damage from cold can contribute to fungal pathogens; I guess it really depends on a lot of stuff, though).

Ventilation (air from outside) in humidity domes and smaller greenhouses is supposed to be important for transpiration, I've read (and I've noticed that plants won't grow—and in fact can dwindle—and that seeds won't sprout, if there are no open vents on the small greenhouse). I don't know how much of an issue this is for a larger greenhouse, but it might be worth investigating.

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  • Thanks, I've added some more images. I think I can cross mites off the list since I haven't found any animals crawling on my leaves.
    – sanjihan
    Commented Apr 18, 2017 at 21:50
  • @sanjihan You can't always see spider mites, even if you have good eyes—that's how the kind in my area are. Of course, that doesn't mean you should go off and buy a miticide to destroy them (they might not be there, and excess chemicals can harm your plants). I've had lots of tomatoes indoors with leaves that have looked like that. Before the lumps came, if I inspected the leaves carefully (held up to a light), I could see tiny flecks with reduced chlorophyll (as if from a sucking creature). Both spider mites and scale insects seem to be able to cause those flecks. I'll edit my answer some. Commented Apr 20, 2017 at 10:33
  • I wouldn't be surprised if a fungus could cause those flecks, too, though. Commented Apr 20, 2017 at 11:57
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Without being able to slice open those little packets I am guessing this is a leaf miner. The top yellowed spot is caused by the female depositing eggs and or the (fly) gets a chance to eat. Those little bumps are eggs. When those eggs hatch then you will see squiggly lines that show where the larva has been to feed.

The best thing would have been to cover your plants so the fly wouldn't be able to lay eggs. To use systemic insecticide now will ruin your tomatoes as edibles. I would prune the leaves that are infected, now. Cover your tomatoes with a 'row cover cloth' to prevent more egg laying. Tomatoes will add lots more leaves before flowering. Hopefully you are using NPK with N as the lowest or at least equal number in relation to phosphorus and potassium. A little miner damage will not hurt your fruit. Keep pruning leaves that have these bumps/eggs. Because this is early your plants will be putting out new foliage and the cover will prohibit adult flies to lay eggs in the newbie leaves. Your fruit and plant need leaves with which to make food for energy to make flowers and fruit/tomatoes.leaf miner cycle

Those flies easily get into your green house. But potted like this (gosh I hope it is sterilized potting soil) will make it easy to sequester and cover with row cloth. Super duper thing to discover...pin the edges down with soil so that the fly is not able to crawl beneath to get to your plants. There are also ways to plant 'trap' crops that these flies love even more than your tomatoes. You then get rid of the trap crop and tomatoes are protected. But we can talk about that later. Your tomatoe leaves are hosting a particular fly larva and you want to get rid of those leaves before the larva become flies and mine your leaves so badly they are unable to produce via photosynthesis energy for your plants. Get rid of those leaves now and your plant will stop using up valuable energy trying to maintain those egg filled leaves and that energy will go into making new leaves...and flowers then fruit.

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  • Thanks for your time. Unfortunately the lights are just too bad to take a decent close up photoshoot, so I will have to update this post tomorrow morning. I am gonna make a decent macro shoot of an leaf with a open packed. Great tips regarding raw cloth. Actually, I am just using regular soil from the garden and coco fibers. I think the soil had some manure horse mixed in last autumn.
    – sanjihan
    Commented Apr 17, 2017 at 21:21
  • Use the row cloth, prune off as many of the infected leaves PLEASE send a picture with a sliced 'egg' packet and closer pictures. Hey, I could be wrong, this is tough trying to put one's neck out there over a photograph! Regular soil in NOT to be used for anything sequestered from the large body of soil...pots have to have sterilized potting soil. Otherwise, for instance, you could get a disease or insect yet have absolutely no beneficials to monitor this chunk of soil. Potting soil, order off the internet. Or plant these guys in your garden. Whenever you bring exotic soil or plants...
    – stormy
    Commented Apr 17, 2017 at 21:39
  • ...into your greenhouse you've essentially infected your supposedly in controled, managed, sterile space. We trade reducing our Zones (greenhouse) in favor of more responsibility and control but more production within a whimpy zone.
    – stormy
    Commented Apr 17, 2017 at 21:42
  • This insect or problem was more than likely brought in via the plant start and soil or the soil from your garden that came without beneficials. You gotta have sterilized potting soil! Any pot, anywhere.
    – stormy
    Commented Apr 17, 2017 at 21:51
  • You are right about sterile soil. If I was doing large scale gardening in green house i would be a fool not to create controlled environment. I've done some additional shots. The lightning was diffuse due to rain, so the bright spots on the backside look like they have zero relief. Overall, the height of those spots is reaaaly small. Also, near the end of images I tried to cut one open, and there is nothing inside.
    – sanjihan
    Commented Apr 18, 2017 at 21:48

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