Over the past month my lawn has changed from a consistent luscious green to yellow. I have an irrigation system that runs for about 10 mins 3x a week. And I fertilize according to the 4x/year schedule using Milorganite (which I think is 6-4-0).

I'm not sure what kind of grass I have. I live on Long Island, New York (zone 7A).

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  • Cut up a 1foot square chunk of sod and look for grubs. Jul 15, 2020 at 2:24
  • @GradyPlayer - I took a look and didn't see any grubs.
    – Peter
    Jul 15, 2020 at 16:33

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Do you water daytime or in the evening or at night? Perhaps extend the watering time to a proper 'drench' IE - several hours or even overnight if at all possible? Not sure if there are any restrictions on water usage?

Depending on the temperature, water applied in hot/warm weather will evaporate quickly so insufficient water may actually be reaching the roots of the grass maybe. Low water quantities applied frequently, will encourage the grass roots to stay near the surface and not seek water lower down. As a result, they will dry out faster. A good soaking periodically would make the root system 'search' downwards and build resilience in the lawn.

As you will be aware, the root system of the trees will also be taking a lot of the water. As they have a root system generally sized in tandem with the crown, they will be in competition with the grass. Conifers tend to have a surface plate root structure rather than tap roots going deeper down.

Most lawns at some time suffer from compaction and/or thatch both of which would encourage water to sit on or at the surface where it will evaporate in sun and wind. I am not saying that this describes your lawn but rather that these can be factors preventing water from getting to the roots.

Generally, grass all over the world suffers from lack of water by browning off but usually bounces back, given patience, care and time. As global warming continues, likely to be an increasing problem.

PS - General comments from other contributors below - not all of this will be applicable but some of it pertains to watering etc.

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Since a lot of lawn care questions are popping up, here is my attempt to condense all of the basic lawn care advice I have come across. (I'm trying to update this as I think of things or learn more.)

This is a general guideline only.

Weeds can grow almost any type of soil, but grass is much more picky. Start by making your soil favorable for grass. Do this stuff at the start of the season (early Spring), or at the end of the season (Fall): Dethatch when necessary. You might be able to use a dethatching rake, but for a decent-sized lawn you will probably need to rent a dethatching machine, or hire a lawn guy to do it. Get rid of the thatch you pull up (don't just leave it in the yard).

Aerate your soil if it is compacted. If water won't sink into your soil, or you can't easily push a spade into the ground, it is probably too compacted. There are multiple types of aerators, but the best one is usually to use a powered core/plug aerator (rent one or hire someone). Aerating will also help to break up your thatch layer, resolving minor thatch problems.

Test your soil's pH and adjust it to the proper range. Be sure to test multiple spots in your yard (pH can be high in one spot, but low in another spot). You can buy soil test kits for under $20 at the home improvement stores. You can also send your soil to a lab (check your local university), which can do more extensive testing.

Add topsoil or compost to make sure you have lots of healthy microbes. You may need to get a truckload or two of topsoil delivered and use a rake/hoe to spread it around the yard.

The items listed above (usually) don't need to be done every single year. Some lawns can go several years without being dethatched, and still be quite healthy. You may want to rotate through this list each year (dethatch one year, aerate the next, etc). Depends on your specific lawn though.

Keep the grass healthy so weeds don't have an opportunity to take over: Overseed your lawn to fill in the thin/bare spots. Do this in the late spring and/or early fall (mid-summer is too hot for seedlings). Use the right kind of grass for your climate. If there is no rain in the weather forecast, you may have to water regularly so the seedlings do not dry out.

Fertilize the lawn 1-3 times during the season, and don't overdo it (read the instructions on the bag). You may want to consider a "Weed and Feed" product, which is fertilizer mixed with weed treatment (see below).

Mow your lawn often enough that you only need to remove 1/3 of the grass height with each mowing. Chopping off too much of the grass at once will stress it. If your lawn is really tall, you may need to mow multiple times, spaced a few days apart, removing 1/3 of the height each time, until you get it down to the desired level. Keep your mower blade sharp. You want to cut the grass cleanly instead of shredding it. You should sharpen the blade at least once a season, more frequently if you have lots of rocks. Keep the mower deck low when the lawn is growing quickly (spring and fall). However, you generally don't want to cut the lawn shorter than 3in. If you mow too short, patches of clover will start to take over and crowd out the grass. Just make sure that 3in is within the rules of your HOA and/or local city/township.

Keep the mower deck high when the lawn is growing slowly (summer). In the summer heat, your lawn is under a lot of stress, and mowing too low will make things worse. Just make sure your lawn does not exceed your HOA/city/township rules. Use a mulching mower to return the nutrients back to the soil. Mulch made from your own (healthy) grass is pretty much the perfect fertilizer. So, if you use a mulching mower, you will need to fertilize less often. However, if your lawn is really tall/thick, your mower may struggle to mulch. You shouldn't have clumps of clippings left over. If so, your lawn is too tall (raise the deck, or mow more often) or your mower blade is dull (sharpen it).

Weed Control: Apply a Weed Preventer (Weed and Feed, Preen, etc) to stop new weeds from appearing, but only if you haven't seeded recently. Weed Preventer also stops new grass from growing. The instructions usually have information about when the product can be applied to recently-seeded lawns. You may need to apply 2-3 times during the season. Use a Weed Spray a few times a year to kill the existing weeds. Be careful about spraying if the lawn was seeded recently (read the label). Also make sure you use a spray that doesn't kill the grass too (don't use Roundup or GroundClear). (See my other answer over here for some tips.) Weed Sprays are usually a mix of a few different herbicides. The mix of herbicide varies from brand to brand (Ortho vs Spectracide) and even among the packaging (hose attachment may have a different formulation than the spray bottle). Some types of weeds are particularly vulnerable to one herbicide, but not others. It helps to identify the offending weed, what kills it, and compare to the list of active ingredients on the weed sprays. Pick the one that will work best for your weeds. Try to stop weeds when they are small. Bigger weeds are more resistant to sprays, so you may have to treat them multiple times, or even have to remove them manually. Killing/removing big weeds will leave holes in the yard that have to be seeded with grass.

Final Tips: Read the instructions for any product you apply to the lawn (grass seed, fertilizer, weed killer, etc). Most products work as advertised if you follow the instructions. It helps to know what the active ingredients are in the product(s) you , and understand how the ingredients work. The active ingredients should be printed on the front of the package. If not, look up the material safety data sheet (MSDS) for the product (should be available online). Understanding how the active ingredients work will help you apply the product effectively. Understand the difference between PRE-emergent and POST-emergent weed treatment (Weed Preventer vs Weed Killer). Many Weed and Feed products are pre-emergent only, so they do nothing for weeds that have already sprouted. Be patient. It can be 1-2 years before your lawn improves. If your lawn is still not improving after that time, there may be something else wrong that goes beyond basic lawn care. You may want to call in a pro at that point.

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Great answer. I would add that it would be worth sending a soil sample to your local lab. pH only costs a few dollars, and they can also test percentage of organic matter present and provide recommendations for adding organic matter and/or fertilizer. Check with them for proper sampling procedure. – bstpierre Jul 28 '11 at 12:15

Good point. The home soil test kits only cover seem to cover pH and nitrogen levels, but not organic matter. I updated my answer. – myron-semack Jul 28 '11 at 12:40 add a comment 13

Many weeds like acidic soil, so it's likely a sign that your yard is probably getting acidic (probably from the rain). Run a pH test on the dirt to confirm. If it is try adding lime (often a lot of it).

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Where would one recommend to acquire said pH test? – dilbert789 Jul 22 '10 at 17:27

Home and garden store, in the U.S. you can also contact your local Land Grant Institution: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university – acrosman Jul 24 '10 at 15:24

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One thing that can help is to keep the grass relatively tall. Lots of people mow their grass way too short. The taller the grass, the less watering it needs and the less sun is getting to the seeds of the weeds. The other advantage is that weeds then tend to have to grow straight and tall, making it a lot easier to grab to pull out.

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I disagree with advice about dethatching. In healthy cool season lawns this is not a problem. If you have excessive thatch it is because of the following: Excessive growth caused by over-fertilization and heavy watering; Infrequent mowing that creates long clippings; Heavy, compacted soils; Unfavorable soil conditions that interfere with microorganisms that break down thatch.

(from Thatch Management in Lawns.) Dethatching is not only unnecessary in healthy lawns, but it can also be an important pathway for weeds to invade. When you pull thatch, you remove roots, expose soil, and allow light to fall on weed seeds. These seeds, in their newly found perfect environment, spring into action and can easily outcompete the recently weakened dethatched grass.

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  • Thank you. I water in the early morning (4am) but perhaps it's not for long enough. I will extend the watering time.
    – Peter
    Jul 15, 2020 at 19:32

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