I'm fairly new to gardening and in need of some guidance. I've searched around for a bit but couldn't find anything except general care and pruning instructions.

Two years ago, I purchased and planted three Elder (Sambucus nigra) plants. They were all bought at a professional garden centre and came at around 15 cm in height. I planted them in a box 3 m by 0.5 m with around 85 cm between each plant. Soil depth is around 40 cm. I let them grow wild (no pruning) and gently guided the canes along a bamboo fence.

All three have been growing nicely but come spring this year only the outer two have sprouted leaves in any number. The middle one has reached the highest but the few leaves actually on it are all rather dry and curled up with a yellowish colour. They have all been watered equally and all have received one round of standard fertiliser last year. I've included a picture for comparison.

Does anyone know why the middle one is not sprouting leaves? They have all received the same amount of water, fertiliser and sunlight and given how similar they have been growing up until now, I'm baffled as to what I did wrong. I planted all of them to serve as a natural fence to the common part of our rooftop terasse and hope to grow them slightly taller but none of that will matter if there are no leaves.

Any ideas as to what can be done? As I said, I don't really have any experience taking care of anything other than the odd cactus so I'm open for any suggestions that might help.

Picture for comparison. Middle Elder has only around a dozen leaves (sadly the angle of the image makes it overlap with the shrubbery behind) and they are all yellow and appears to be dying.

  • What part of the world are you in?
    – Bamboo
    May 6, 2020 at 16:50
  • Yes, sorry, of course that is relevant. I'm in Denmark, northern Europe, 55th parallel facing south-west and full sun from morning until early evening. Climate is coastal with slight frost in winter and relatively cool summers. May 7, 2020 at 14:55

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Sambucus nigra is a large shrub or tree up to 6 metres in height and spread; your plants are restricted at the root and are unable to grow on properly, so whilst they will survive for a relatively short time in a container and be healthy, that won't be for very long. The fact it's the middle one that's not doing well is just chance - it's probably got even less root room because the two either side have taken up the soil space and crowded it out.

I'm afraid the only way to grow the plant on properly is to place it into a much bigger container on its own, but even then, within a couple of years, it will have the same problem. The other two left in the container will also begin to have problems by next year for the same reason; the roots and the space they need are critical to a plant's healthy survival.

There are other plants that will survive and do well for much longer in the containers you have; the trick is to choose a shrub that has an expected height and spread of up to a metre or so, judging by the depth and general size of the container. Whether that height is sufficient for your needs though I can't say...

There are other possible, pest related possibilities, but it depends where you are in the world - I note there is one stem on the middle plant that still has some foliage present.


In Denmark, borers are not an issue, you don't have them there. The most common pest on these is Aphis sambuci, an aphid which prefers Sambucus, but you haven't mentioned seeing any insects on the plant, and I'd have expected it to be present on the other two plants as well. Otherwise, there is a report of an infection on S.nigra occurring in Germany in 1991, causing reddening of leaves,small leaves, premature leaf drop and die back of plants - 40% of the plants had a mycoplasma infection, but it was not present in the other 60% affected. I can find no further reports on this problem since that date, either in Germany or any other part of Europe except for Scotland around the same time. Therefore, I'm sorry to say the most likely explanation of the problem is the one already given above, i.e. restriction at the root.

  • I very much agree - last year I didn’t get around to prune mine (just wild, not planted on purpose), so I will be harvesting the flowers from my first floor balcony.
    – Stephie
    May 6, 2020 at 21:17
  • @Stephie quite convenient then!
    – Bamboo
    May 7, 2020 at 13:14
  • This is very interesting. I had considered that it might have its roots restricted from both sides but I asked specifically at the garden centre whether this would be an issue when planting in a small box. The difference is just so striking as the two on either side are sprouting beautifully. But if this is indeed the case then their time will be limited too. I originally chose elder because of the fast growth and dense foliage. The middle one has six large shoots where four have some leaves at their ends but they do not look healthy and some are mixed with leaves sprouting next to dead ones. May 7, 2020 at 14:46
  • the trouble with fast growing plants is that they get too big rather quickly... see updated answer anyway.
    – Bamboo
    May 7, 2020 at 16:21
  • @AspicioAstra I posted a picture in our Gardening & Landscaping Chat. Hop over, if you like.
    – Stephie
    May 7, 2020 at 16:48

The fact that you have shoots that started growing and then died back looks to me like borer damage. The elderberry borer chews into the base of the plant and munches out the pith on the inside of the stems, making it very difficult for the plant to send sap to the leaves to keep them turgid. It might be hard to find, but look for a hole about 3mm. across fairly close to the base of the plant. The borer is in there as a larva, and will eventually emerge as an adult. They are quite large and very colourful but quite destructive.

If this is the case, what to do? The other two plants might be ok for a while but likely they will get the same borer eventually. Fortunately elderberries are easy to root from cuttings, so if elderberry is desirable there then keep a supply of new plants coming. Otherwise if the population of Desmocerus is dense there you might look for an alternate.

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